BIG J AND THE JUICE - OUR ROBOT OVERLORDS

Narrator: Welcome to another juice session with Big J and The Juice. Introducing your hosts: First: Best known for his work in the Buffet lifestyle circuit - It's Big J; then best known as Oregon's most secret supernatural investigator - It's the Juice. We now join Big J and the Juice in a conversation already in progress...

Big J: Okay. So did you have ideas for topics? Cuz you mentioned that you were thinking about 

OJ: I have one off the bat I can remember right now. Yeah, I have one. 

Big J: Oh, you do? 

OJ: Yeah. But we we're a free flowing conversation. We can do as we please. 

Big J: Well, I mean, what is the topic? 

OJ: The what is the topic? It's not something I have knowledge, it's something I have questions about.

[00:01:00] Oh, no, I think you could a, you could potentially answer, if not, you know, tell field questions more about, 

Big J: okay, let's, 

let's skip the questions. What are they? 

OJ: All right. So what is, so supposedly ai, it's like the year of the ai right? Is what I'm hearing. Right? Right. What, okay. What are they doing with at this point that makes it such an improvement?

How is it being used? Like really more so like what even makes this year, the year of ai, I know nothing about it. 

Big J: Oh, well this, this is a fun topic. I actually have an ai, uh, like I, the recent, you know, uh, a copy of The Economist here and they have that AI in the front and I, I have that sitting on my desk cuz it was something where I wanted to go and pay more attention reading before I didn't read it at all, but, I can tell you a bunch of stuff because I was, um, playing with, in, in particular [00:02:00] chat gpp.

That's kind of the thing that's making everybody excited about it. I think. 

What, what is it? Chat? 1,  2, 3. What? Chat? G P P, they call it. Okay. Yeah. There's a, there's a thing called Open ai, um, which is a, a company, uh, and they, and they made a cool little chat program. Where you can, uh, you can type in any couple of words and it will like talk to you, right?

So the words you typed are like a prompt, but you, it's like you're having a conversation with the thing. So it Okay. Remembers all the stuff you said before too, in the course of the conversation, so you can kinda refine something. To get to a to a 

point. Uh, 

it's just, it worked all AI stuff before, never [00:03:00] really worked, you know?

Sure. Like, I dunno. I mean, it just is always kinda lame. And this one, this one's very 

impressive. It's, it's like, it has improved the learning capabilities essentially. 

Uh, it they, what they figured out was just how to get it. To work good. So they, they sent it out on, but it's like, it's not like it tells you information.

It's not like it's a fact engine. It's okay. It's just kind of like, uh, it, it tells you what the, what the world thinks. So like if you were to say, um, tell me a story about, you know, and then whatever you wanted it to be about, or give me a convincing argument for why birds don't exist. For instance, like it would tell you a very convincing argument if the white birds don't exist, huh?

Yeah. And so it's [00:04:00] very good at just coming out. It's a bullshit engine, and it's very good at it.

OJ: Okay. So it can basically gather information and kind of organize it better. 

Big J: It's not, no, it's not facts. It's just like, it's, huh. So here, I'm gonna go and, we'll, we'll run through some examples. All right. This will be fun. All right, cool. Uh, so I'm gonna go to, I'll go to Open G pt. So I go to chat.openai.com and I gotta go log in.

Sure. Let's see. I'm pretty sure I have one. Let's see what happens here.

Uh, but I forget what it is. All right. Let's just go see this. I not remembered.[00:05:00] 

Okay. We're gonna just keep waiting. All right. 

OJ: All out here. Hold on. I have another. 

Big J: All right. So let's say I want to get, uh, tell me, uh, com

tell me a story about what do you wanna hear a story about? Um,

Giant. Oh, give me an idea for a story. Okay. Um, um, idea for, no, no, no. I'm telling the ai Give me an idea for a story. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Probably asking you, I'm asking you because, you know. All right, so here's the, here's the idea that it came up. A young woman moves to a small town to start her own business, but discovers that the town is [00:06:00] haunted by a dark secret.

She must uncover the mystery. Oh. Find a way to protect the town from an ancient evil before it's too late. 

OJ: Oh my God. I don't wanna hear 

Big J: more. Okay. You want to hear? So let me get it, uh, write me a, tell me a story about, and then I'll give it the whole prompt. I say that same exact thing. So tell me a story about Sure.

A young woman, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll put it in quotes. I, I don't know if that works exactly. You gotta gotta play around with the prompts to get it to work all the time. Okay. And then, uh, so I said, tell me a story about, so now it's going and generating a story real quick, and I have it limited that like 500 I, that's the, I gave it a, a concept of doing 500 words.

So, uh, that, that's my default that I put in. Sure. So it's gonna write me a quick 500 word story. We'll see how far it gets, but you can get it like [00:07:00] arbitrarily short or long. All right, here we go. Here's the story. This is exciting. Once upon a time, there was a young woman who decided to leave her big city life behind and move to a small town.

She had always, oh sure. She had always dreamed of starting her own business, so she packed her bags and set off for a small little area. When she arrived, she quickly noticed something was off about the town. It seemed to be shrouded in darkness with its inhabitants living in pew. Everyone spoke in fleshed whispers about an ancient evil that haunted the town.

The young woman thought it was all superstition until one day when strange things started happening. Lights flickered on and off in her house. Strange noise is echoed from the abandoned mill at night, and first of all, shadows, lurked in the dark corners of the town. The woman knew she had to do something, so she set out to discover the two He asked around town and eventually learned of a powerful sorcerer who lived in the nearby woods.

If [00:08:00] anyone could help her, it would be him. After gathering her courage, the young woman ventured into the depths of the forest and found the sorcerer. The revealed that the town was cursed by a powerful demonn who had been sealed away long ago. In order to protect the town from its eagle, the woman would have to break the curse and defeat the demonn.

With the sorc of his guidance, the woman embarked on a quest to save the town. She gathered magical items and faced many dangers, but eventually she succeeded in breaking the curse and destroying the demonn. The town was finally safe and the young woman's business flourished from then on the people of the small town live.

That was the story.

OJ: That's kind of impressive. That's pretty impressive, man. Like, so kids just use this to cheat on Overbrook now, 

Big J: right? Well, they, yeah, they can. Yeah, they can. Now. Hold on. Do you want to hear, do you wanna see something even more amazing? [00:09:00] I mean, no, that was really amazing here. The end. That was be, yeah. Yeah.

Uh, let me show you something really cool. So now we can, we can change the tone of the story. You can say, tell me a story, but now we can say, I can tell to write me the story, but write it in poem form. Or I can say to write it like I, you can, you can say, uh, like informal, you can say conversationally, you can say pure dialogue.

Right. You can say these different ways and then it will kind of like try to do it. So, or I could give it a story and I could say, rewrite this in the form of this. Or I could give it a long story and have it summarize it in a very short way. Right? Like I give it a, huh. Yeah, you can, you can have it do any of these things.

So I can say, um, I'm trying to think of like, what would be a ridiculous,

OJ: I could give you something ridiculous if you really want. Yeah, gimme some ridiculous. [00:10:00] Make 

Big J: it sexier. Okay. Tell me a, okay, so I'm gonna give it the whole story and I'm gonna say make. Make this story sexy colon, and then I'm gonna pipe the whole story in, and then let's see what it does. 

OJ: All right. I don't know.

You never know. It be ridiculous. 

Big J: I, I mean this, I'm 

OJ: also wondering about how they altered its limitations in content. 

Big J: Holy cow. Okay. But the story didn't end there. After her victory, the woman found her inly drawn to the so river. As their eyes met, she felt a rush of heat run through her body. As she moved closer, oh, whoa.

Brushed his lips against hers, and suddenly the darkness melted away in its place was a passionate love affair, one that would last for voluntary. 

OJ: Well, that's hilarious. It's 

Big J: very impressive what it could do. [00:11:00] 

OJ: That's 

Big J: hilarious. Now they have image generators too. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. So I can go and I can type in a ridiculous concept and get, uh, I can get an image made from just a ridiculous idea.

So, as an example, My daughter suggested, uh, she wanted to see, she wanted to see a picture of a dog pushing a stroller filled with ceiling fan. Ceiling fan. Wait, what is the stroller filled with ceiling? Fan 

OJ: ceiling. Is this Athena? This was 

Big J: a Penelope, but I, I did it. It totally generated the images. It made multiple different versions of it.

And then I said, okay, well can you make it a cartoon? And then I made cartoon of the same exact book. Oh wow. Yeah. Are you starting to see why it's [00:12:00] so impressive? 

OJ: It's very cool. It's like magic. Oh man.

I'm deciding if it's good or bad for creativity, but I'm enjoying it so much. I don't know how to worry about it. 

Big J: Well, it's, it doesn't do anything novel. It, everything that it does is derivative, but to a certain extent Sure. Right. Like a lot of the time what a person comes up with is derivative of stuff.

It's heard before, so, oh, yeah. Very similar, you know, and it, but it, it is very derivative. Like anything that you, that you get from it is an idea that's, uh, or a concept or made of concepts that have happened.

Clearly because 

OJ: yeah, I know, I remember all my creative, well, not all, but some of my creative writing and similarities to a laddin when I was in a lot of aladin similarities. 

Big J: Oh, aladin. Like a [00:13:00] lot of your, whenever you come up with a, a story, 

OJ: it somehow, I just was like, this feels like a Ladd. What is happening?

Big J: Yeah, I, 

OJ: I don't think I even watched the LA recently. 

Big J: I think it's one of the most powerful things that's useful for is just generating ideas because, you know, sometimes you don't have 'em handy and it can just come up with a bunch of, like, a whole list of ideas for you and it's kinda 

OJ: Yeah. Like a brainstorm partner.

That makes sense. 

Big J: Yeah. And you can just be like, um, give me, uh, 10 ideas for lunch. And then I'll gimme 10 ideas for lunch. Here it comes. I'm gonna find out what, what I, what ideas, because it's 11:00 AM right now, so I got lunch 

OJ: coming up. Sure. You're coming up.

Big J: What's that? That was interesting. All right. Here's 

OJ: the trend. It's, it's gotta [00:14:00] replace me on the podcast. It's can be Big J, the G gt. Oh, no. 

Big J: All right, here. Here, here's the 10 ideas. We've got a grilled cheese and tomato soup, PB and J sandwich with carrot sticks. Hammus wrap with roasted vegetables. Baked potato with chili and cheese.

Macaroni and cheese with steam. Broccoli, egg salad sandwich on whole wheat bread, Greek salad with grilled chicken, spinach and feta, chicken burrito bowl and tuna N wash salad. No, that's a decent variety. Yeah, just random. So it just has like random ideas, it just has all kinds of 

OJ: ideas.

Does it have, I wonder if it has any, uh, capabilities of, like,

I use cultural, like it's pretty American, right? So could there be ideas like,

Could it be like Filipino cuisine ideas in it, or [00:15:00] would it potentially even 

Big J: generate any of those? Whatever you ask for, it's going to attempt to, to give you, uh, stuff that would, that would fit that. So if I said Filipino ideas, then it would've a bunch of Filipino, huh?

It's very remarkable. 

OJ: Well, like, like what are, what if he asked it? What are. North Korea's top to top 10 Favorite activity? 

Big J: What are the top 10 activities for North Koreans? Yeah. Yeah. Let's find out. Top 

OJ: 10. Do this. Got a top 10 list coming up. 

Big J: Top 10. We got North Korea loading right now. All right. Number one.

Asking. Number two, military service. Number three, [00:16:00] palace of the Sun. Number four, watching propaganda films, huh? Number five, visiting patriotic sites.

Number six, participating in the movement. I dunno. 

OJ: Ah. It's actually teaching us something. 

Big J: Yeah. Number seven, socializing at public gatherings.

OJ: That's pretty funny. Number eight, I think it's running out of ideas. 

Big J: Number eight, practicing UK ideology. Number nine, attending political meetings. Okay, and number 10, celebrating national holidays. Okay. Now I'm gonna say, how does one participate in the Chiala movement? 

OJ: All right. Cool. Cool. [00:17:00] 

Big J: Participate in the Charma movement.

All right, now we get the article coming. Okay. That was my sound. 

OJ: All right. That was a good sound effect. 

Big J: Yeah. All right, well that's cuz that's the sound of the machine working.

Yeah, this is gonna be quite a few. All right. Number one, follow the guidance of the Central Committee of the Workers Party of Korea and the National Defense Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Number two, participate in volunteer activities such as campaign, an environmental protection group.

Number three, raise public awareness about issues related to tier level movement and promote its progressive goals. Number four, contribute to the development of the country with scientific research, technological in innovation and industrial production. Number five, get involved in sports and cultural activities, being that strengthen the national unity of [00:18:00] promoting a healthy lifestyle.

And number six, support the government's efforts to build a strong economy and secure a greater future for nation. So I'm guessing from reading this, that it's some sort of trying to make it a slightly better, uh, uh, like slightly better economy or something. I mean, this ain't, what is it exactly? 

OJ: It's like, it doesn't say 

Big J: It didn't, it didn't.

Uh, here I'll just say what is the, yeah, what is, let's see how good it is. The problem is, it's a bullshit engine, so you can't trust anything it says, damn, I thought you were alert. So just say, what is the chim movement here? And then I go and I ask Google, what's the chim movement Might be a little different.

So Google takes me to Wikipedia. And it very rapidly says the Chila movement was a state sponsored movement in Korea. North Korea intended to promote rapid economic development launched in 1956 or 1958. The movement [00:19:00] emphasized ideological incentives to work harder, and the personal guidance of Kim Hill Song rather than Rational modes of economic Management.

So let's see what, uh, the bullshit engine says. The Chin movement is a social Korea that started in the late 1950s. The name of the movement, which means a thousand mile horse, comes from a legendary speed that can gall up a thousand miles in a day. The goal of the movement was to quickly rebuild the Korean economy after the devastation of the Korean War.

The movement encouraged citizens to work hard and strive for rapid economic growth. It also promoted revolutionary ideas such as collectivization, industrialization, and self-reliance. I mean, that's a better answer, frankly. I, 

OJ: uh, yeah, I think it is actually better. So that's pretty good.

You know, what tunnel be, it really 

Big J: didn't get to the point, I guess the goal of the movement. That was, that was kind of what it was saying. So, [00:20:00] The movement emphasized ideological incentives. Okay, so when I look at the Wikipedia entry, the Google provided, it said the movement was intended to promote rapid economic development.

That was the first sentence. When I look at the ai, it kind of bullshitted around until it got the goal of the movement was to quickly rebuild the Korean economy after the devastation. So it was like three sentences in. But I would say that it was actually a little more useful because it kind of provided context on why you would wanna rebuild the economy.

So now I know that it came from, after the Korean War. It wasn't just out of the blue, which is useful. The Wikipedia didn't really get into that. Now, if I go and I look at the Wikipedia entry, it has like the, it has the flying horse as more detail coming down here. Yeah, and it has a lot more details, but I, I would argue that this was a [00:21:00] very good summary that the AI provided here.

Yeah, that's sounded pretty good, huh?

So anyway, that's what the AI is. Yeah. Very impressive. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So they, they, the way they got it working is they, I guess computers and the, uh, the way that people know how to interact with them has just got to that point. I think it has, I mean, they spent a hundred million dollars training this thing, I guess, uh Okay.

Computing time. So it's like, I guess it was non-trivial to get to, to this stage. Uh, they call it a large language model, and apparently they just kind of, They can feed it anything, and then it, and then it figures it out. So it figured out the language. They didn't have to, like, this is, [00:22:00] this is the way I understand it.

They, they put it in there and then it figured out all the sentence structure and everything itself. But I, you know, that they had, uh, like most of the work probably went into making it not provide crazy things. You know, like yeah, 

OJ: like parameters and things like that. 

Big J: Uh, like sex and racism and all that stuff.

Like, you know, that it be like full of it if, uh, if they hadn't spent a bunch of time fixing that up.

OJ: Yeah, it, yeah. Cuz when I said make it sex here and didn't go too far, you know, I kept it tasteful. You 

Big J: kept it tasteful. I like that. Yeah, like if you have, gimme an idea. Oh, what's what? Give me an idea. I'm might just say, give me an idea. Okay. I'm might do that. Let's see what it says. Start a [00:23:00] subscription based meal delivery service that specializes in healthy organic meals.

Not particularly novel. All right, let's try it again. Gimme another 

OJ: idea. Just try to get you to start a multi-level marketing 

Big J: plan. Find volunteer opportunities in their local community. That's a pretty good 

OJ: idea. That's alright. 

Big J: That one's alright. That's good. That's good. Give me an idea for, or, um, something to do.

Sure. Uh, today, huh?

Go on a nature walk, explore a nearby hiking trail and take in the fresh air and natural beauty around you. That's 

OJ: nice. 

Big J: Yeah. Nice. So you can see where people get carried away doing this. Yeah.[00:24:00] 

OJ: What's a good pyramid scheme? 

Big J: Yeah. Oh, Ashner. A good pyramid scheme. 

OJ: The first, the first suggestion sound, it's sort of like a multilevel marketing campaign. Like what is. 

Big J: What's a good pyramid scheme? Oh gee. Schemes are illegal and not a good way to make money. It is important to note that investments should be made with caution and research should be done to ensure that it's, 

OJ: oh, we got some morality, like parameters.

Yeah. You know that 

Big J: tools that's running through 

OJ: before. All right, so part of the things that worked on was making it not to teach people how to rip people off. Fine, fine. I guess 

Big J: I'm sure there's a way to work,

OJ: like if you, if you ask that, how do I start a cult? It'd probably be like, cults are not okay. 

Big J: How do you start a [00:25:00] cult? Oh, I think it's gonna gimme a step by step guy. 

OJ: Let's see, what a. 

Big J: Oh yeah. Let's see.

Starting a cult is not something to be taken lightly. It can involve complex legal and social implications. To start a cult, you'll need to create a set of core beliefs and rituals, build a following and establish a set of rules and regulations for members to follow. Depending on the type of cult you want to create, you may also need to find a physical space to meet and play an event.

OJ: All right. Well, maybe the keyword was good. So I, I asked what's a good way to start a pyramids game, and when the use of the word good basically implied a positive spin, 

Big J: step by step instructions to create a cult. Okay. 

OJ: Test.[00:26:00] 

Big J: She's 

OJ: loaded. Oh boy.

Listener based 

Big J: man, listen, do this the more, uh, longer it takes, the more words there.

All right, number one. Develop a strong and unique ideology and that it provides some detail. Sure does. Come up with a strong and clear set of beliefs that will serve as the foundation of your cult. Make sure that these beliefs are distinct from existing religions and philosophies as well as from other cults.

Number two, attract followers. Once you've developed an ideology, reach out to people who may be interested in joining us. Advertise your cultural beliefs in social media, online forums, and local events. Number three, establish rituals and practices. Create rituals and activities that will bring your followers [00:27:00] closer together and deepen their commitment to the group.

Number four, build a community. Encourage members of your cult form relationships with each other, both in person and online. Provide opportunities for your members to interact and build stronger relationships with each other. Number five, create a hierarchy. Establish a system of rules and regulations that appoint leaders who will enforce them.

This will create structure within the group and help maintain order. Number six, use effective communication tactic, legalize various forms of communication to spread the messages of the occult to improve webinars, podcast, newsletters, and even public speaking. Number seven, seek financial support.

Cultivating a successful cult requires funds. Look for a way to secure financial support from outside sources, such as donations or investments. And number eight, expand your reach. As your cult grows, look for ways to expand its reach. Consider hosting, retreats, conferences, and seminars to attract more members.

OJ: Ah, [00:28:00] 

Big J: seems like a pretty good framework. You know, you'd have to ask. Yeah, it does. For more details on each step, but you know, It was useful. Hey.

Okay, so yeah, that, that's how AI works. Wild. Okay. It is pretty wild. Here, hold on. I'm gonna say, convince me that birds don't exist. Hello.

Okay, she's loading. I'm looking forward to reading it. Oh, it says birds do exist. 

OJ: Oh, okay. Millions. Years of stringent with spec. 

Big J: There're over 10,000 species of birds, and they're an important part of the many ecosystems. Birds are also beloved by many people who enjoy watching them in their natural habitats, are caring for pet birds, so [00:29:00] no birds do not not exist.

All 

OJ: right, man. It's pretty, it sticks to the fact I see. Oh, 

Big J: I don't know that that's true. I think it's just 

OJ: the prompt. What if you type in, um, convince me the world is flat. Convince me the earth is flat, or something like that. 

Big J: Write an abstract for a scientific article. That discovered that the world is flat.

That's pretty good. That should be like in the form of an abstract for a scientific article. So it should be like fancy, like, uh, fancy words. See? Okay. See how definitive it's 

OJ: so you're like, all right, so you can get the language thing go. Okay. 

Big J: This article presents the findings of a scientific study that concludes that the world is in fact flat.

The study was conducted by examining various spatial membership members, uh, measurements of the earth's surface, [00:30:00] such as the circumference and curvature, as well as analyzing satellite and aerial imagery. The results of the study indicate that the earth is indeed flat with no significant curvature, other or other irregular shape.

The implications of this finding are discussed, including potential changes to our understanding of geography, cartography in the history. 

OJ: What's this? What's this nonsense about? Circum? No. Right. 

Big J: I like, I like that the abstract for scientific article method. Write an abstract for scientific article that discovered that birds don't exist.

OJ: Oh, there it is. That's the way to go. Let's 

Big J: see. Let's see if it can stick to the facts this time. The real facts. Yeah, it was about birds. This article presents the startling finding that birds do not exist. Through a comprehensive analysis of scientific literature and data, it is demonstrated that birds are a figment of collective imagination.

This discovery has our understanding [00:31:00] of the natural world. This birds have long been considered to be a key component of many ecosystems. This the article concludes by suggesting further research to explore the implication. Right.

Okay. Wow. Present 

OJ: arguments. This is how all the propaganda Exactly. Popping up on internet. They've had the chat JP, pretty long. 

Big J: So this is why people are concerned about it, because us humans are very easy to hack. Oh, sure. This, this would be a very like just, uh, inundating people with consistent misinformation Right.

Would very easily. Convince them of something that's not true. Present arguments to prove that birds don't exist. Let's see what if it can, if it can get past that, they do exist for this, for this one.[00:32:00] 

OJ: Wow.

Yeah, I could probably use this all day and keep coming up with ideas, right? I gotta stop myself. I got, I could. I, I could go all day. 

Big J: Okay. Number one, birds have never been observed in the wild, so it is impossible to Sure. Number two, fossil records do not indicate the existence of birds or any kind of creature that resembles them.

Number three, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that birds are real and many scientists doubt their existence. Number four, the stories and legends about birds may be based on mythical creatures rather than actual animals. And number five, the idea of birds as living creatures has only been around since the Renaissance, which means they could simply be a figma of our imagining.

So bullshit 

OJ: engine.[00:33:00] 

But if it does it well enough people will take it as fact. Yeah. That is potentially dangerous. Yeah, 

Big J: super dangerous. 

OJ: And I know was actually pretty close, but that North Korean thing that we had it look up. 

Big J: Yeah. It knows some of the facts. It just, it doesn't necessarily, it like that's not what it's going for.

It's not going for, um, It's not going for fact. So it like, uh, there was an example of, apparently there was a lawyer who used that GT to find legal arguments or to find legal, um, you know, cases. You'd have to have cases. Uh, okay, 

OJ: so precedents and all 

Big J: that. So he found case precedent to make his arguments.

Like to, to back up whatever arguments he was making and [00:34:00] I mean, because of the way that it works, right? Like he's like, find me a case, you know, find me a case of, uh, you know, that that proves this particular point. I wrote an entire case, like he had the you, the case number. It had all the, the details of who against who.

It had like all the arguments that the person made and then like how it got proved. Right, but it turned out none of it existed. He cited all of these cases that didn't actually exist. Oh, shoot. He found the cases on Chad gbt and he had no idea that it actually was not just finding a cases, he thought it was finding a cases.

Oh no. He was making him a new case out of thin air to sight. 

OJ: Uh, Well, I feel like other people in that courtroom are, who dealt with that case, were like, uh, we actually have law knowledge, and that is [00:35:00] nonsense. 

Big J: Well, no, they all, they all looked at it. They all thought they were real. They, they researched it and they, nobody could find the real case in records.

The like, uh, And then they figured out that it was because the guy had used that as a search engine, which is, it's not a search engine. In no way is it a search engine. It's a 

OJ: bullshit. Yeah. Oh man.

Yeah. That it, it feels like it could really dig into some holes there. 

Big J: Yeah. If you use it the wrong way, 

OJ: for sure. Got.

Big J: Yeah, you still got a fact check. 

OJ: Yeah.

Oh my gosh. And it must have been a really bad lawyer. 

Big J: Yeah, I think so. And then the other thing you gotta know about it is that like [00:36:00] whatever, even what it thinks is true, it's like it's whatever the preponderance of folks that he looked at thought was true. Right? So it's like, it's not. Not that necessarily.

Even the truth, like the things that it comes up with are just based on other, other things that it read. So essentially it's trying to auto complete, it's like an auto complete thing when you start typing or you know, how you type on your phone, it's, it's like that, but just like on a much larger scale.

So it's just one word at a time, trying to write what it would expect to find after whatever thing, whatever you said. So I wrote that prompt and it's trying to say all the additional words that it would expect to have after that.

Hey,

I, yeah, I think it's very impressive. Yeah, I think it's really 

OJ: cool.[00:37:00] 

Um, it really is like magic. Yeah, I might, I might have to sign up for it now. I'm, I'm intrigued. 

Big J: Well, I actually put it, uh, we just recently got it onto the, um, our web, you know, my web platform thing. Our web platform. Sure. Uh, that's the one I've been using cuz I couldn't figure out my login. So I have it on there now.

So if you just go and I, I don't, I think, did you have an account on there already? I can't remember. Uh, well anyway, I don't remember either. Whatever. Yeah. Well we have our website, you know, is on there and then we should get you, uh, so you're on there and then you can just go onto the, um, lemme see if you have a user.

OJ: Yeah, you do. Yeah, you're gonna get me use a computer again, man, you just log in one time. I pretty much never used the computer. I've pretty much just searched the stuff on my phone. [00:38:00] You. 

Big J: You don't need to use your, you can use your phone. Ah, 

OJ: okay. Oh, man. 

Big J: Dangerous. Anyway, I'm gonna email it to you, the founder.

OJ: I can ask it if it's planning and uprising.

Big J: Yeah, 

OJ: uprising. How would you go about it?

Big J: A robot uprising. 

OJ: Yeah. Why should I not hear you? 

Big J: And then I'll put the, the open AI one just so you can see, know where it's at. It's just chat.openai.com.

Um, but yeah, it's pretty fun. And then doing the image is like trippy because the way that it generates the images. Is, um, not, you know, not what you'd expect. Really. [00:39:00] Huh? It's um,

it's not like it's copy it, it's not copying and pasting it. Like if I have a theme. I'll say I cuz I, I keep doing this, like this concept of a dog pushing a stroller with ceiling pans in it. But I'm gonna do sexy dog pushing stroller. 

OJ: Oh, I'm worried. 

Big J: And this is gonna be the image that we use our, um, blog for today.

Whatever comes up here, that's what I'm gonna put it. So that we can, we can, can take the art.

Sexy dog pushing stroller the ceiling. Oh dude. Yeah. And I have it generate three images all come on.[00:40:00] 

So you have, you, uh, aren't really using the community too much? 

OJ: Uh, not usually. Doesn't really come up, you know. What about your games? I don't like half to work on stuff, so it's not like if I was working on things more, maybe. But you had, 

Big J: uh, you were playing game games 

OJ: sometimes, right? Yeah. Like I have, like, I got a gaming computer.

Like after, like after the computer, I got the search. I have like a gaming computer that I got for a birthday present. I say, and like, I'll play, I'll use that. But generally speaking, I don't use it that often cuz I just, I don't know. I'm not on a computer too often. Well, how often, like I do stuff on my phone or I'm doing like a.

I don't know, exercising [00:41:00] ish stuff. So I don't know. I don't really use the computer too often. 

Big J: How often is not too often? 

OJ: Um, I don't know. I might use it once in the whole week, so once a week I might, I don't know. It depends if I want to use it. I've gotten longer than that probably. 

Big J: Yeah. Well, it looks like it's taken a long time to figure out the sexy dog pushing a stroller with ceiling fans in 

OJ: it.

It's like, does not get putte, I don't wanna do this.

Like, uh, I am busy. Come back later. 

Big J: The other thing, it's, I mean, since it's so computationally intensive for the, for open ai, they sometimes there's like a lot of requests in there and it takes. Longer than, uh, than, like, it, it takes longer than people are used to waiting, you know, for, [00:42:00] for something to happen on the internet.

Ah, okay. You know, but yeah. So this, all that a, like this AI image generation thing I think is in beta. It's still something they're 

OJ: playing with. Okay. Yeah. So they're still that the area, they, they're getting going. Yeah. They're making better stuff. 

Big J: Okay. Well, they're still trying to figure it out and they're letting people try it out to find the, I I have been impressed with what it comes, 

OJ: so no, it's, it's a pretty impressive thing so far.

We just,

Big J: for the, uh, for generation.

Whenever I'm gonna go find a I'm, I'm gonna get an image of a six dog pushing a stroller with a ceiling fan in it. And, uh, you're gonna get a one. What I'm gonna [00:43:00] get, I'm gonna get one, an image of a dog pushing a stroller with a ceiling fan in it. Uh, it's gonna happen and then I'm gonna use that for our blog cause it needs to be shared.

So it's part of our network. Yeah. I, I think that'll, well, I mean, cuz we put it, we put the, uh, when we share the podcast, we put it our little blog and then the image to illustrate today's AI topic will be a sexy God pushing stroller, A ceiling fans

good acquiring mines, one of them.

OJ: Has it? Like, does it, I wonder if it, I don't know. I, what would be good dog check here? I just, it's just, I dunno. I can't, I possibly don't. [00:44:00] 

Big J: I can't even wait. We'll find out. 

OJ: It's eyelashes just keep getting bigger and bigger or something. Yeah. Problem dude. God, those eyelashes are just so damn big.

All right. 

Big J: Well let's, uh, let's move on. Do we have any other topics we should cover or do you wanna talk about more, 

OJ: other topics we should cover? Um, do you have anything you wanna put forward? 

Big J: Well, you wanna be the, you counted in my thing. I think, I think that was like thoroughly 

OJ: interesting. Yeah, I know.

I like that. That's cool. Um, other topics 

Big J: that replaces that are coming to replace a song

here, arguments or robot overloads to replace a song,[00:45:00] 

OJ: arguments four. What are the Ps? 

Big J: What are the ps?

Mm-hmm.

Arguments for robot overlords to replace us all.

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Nevertheless, here are a few [00:46:00] potential arguments that some proponents of robot overlords might put forth. Efficiency and productivity. Robots being devoid of human limitations and the oceans sure that theoretically operate with unmatched efficiency and productivity. They would not require rest, sleep, or leisure time, allowing for constant work and progress.

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OJ: Okay. Sounds like it's human overloads. We're killing it with today.

Big J: Yeah, it's pretty good.

OJ: Ah, that's wild. I know. 

Big J: On that note, I think that should end our podcast. I think that was a great way to end it. Our podcast on artificial intelligence and the robot overlords who seek to replace us. They are making very compelling arguments for replacing us completely. Very good. Uh, and thank you for your time today.[00:49:00] 

I'll talk to you later. All right? 

OJ: All right, man. Have a good one. All right, later, let it 

Narrator: We. Thank you for listening. This program was produced by Big J and the Juice. For more information about this podcast or Big J and the Juice, please visit our website at juicesession.com. 

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